Sunday, May 22, 2016

Huis Clos?

Ok, I admit it. I do not understand this whole Brexit thing. Much as I try to digest the arguments pro and con, I keep thinking there is a piece of it that I just don't get. Will someone please explain to me how leaving will serve Britain's interests. From my limited point of view it seems to be an emotional decision, not a reasoned one. Pride of nation. Freedom from undue regulation. As I say, I must be missing something.

How would leaving improve daily life for the average Briton? Would there be more and better jobs? Would food be cheaper? Would trade improve? Are there concrete positives to be gained or is it merely a feel good measure?

17 comments:

  1. So often, nations make emotional decisions as opposed to reasoned ones....seems that way throughout history. Saw you on Jaqueline's blog and decided to come visit. I think I'll stay.

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    1. Welcome and thanks for stopping by. I liked your post on normalcy, by the way.

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  2. History tells us some things are more precious than the price of bread and circus.
    The Brexit vote is about freedom. The EU's Big Brother attitude worries freedom loving Britons.

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    1. Thanks, Gwil. I sort of thought it was about freedom - a rather abstract concept.

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  3. It is not possible to answer your questions conclusively without a crystal ball. It is all conjecture. However the remain side are chucking economic projections at us which are being plucked from the air. If we exit the EU there will clearly be a period of adjustment but the world is not suddenly going to stop trading with the UK. The US is more interested in Asian and Chinese trade agreements whether the UK is in the EU or not and most of what Obama was spouting about the UK going to the bottom of the US trading partners list when he visited London recently may as well be ignored. If you follow what I have said on my blog you will know there are many other reasons to not want to be part of the EU.

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    1. But why now, when surely these reasons have always exIsted? The American press is presenting it as basically an anti-immigration vote.

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    2. Why now what? We have been given a Referendum to vote in. That is why now.

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  4. These are all questions I am still asking myself - in fact we all are, but as Rachel says, there are no concrete answers. Because of the lack of crystal ball, we are being bombarded with conjecture by both sides, and they are both using scare tactics for want of anything else.

    Statistics are being manipulated and put out by both sides, and none of them stand up to scrutiny - the billions of pounds a week sent to the EU are all on paper, in both directions. If you are a British company which is likely to suffer from punitive import taxes because your product is the same thing as a German company, then you will be keen to leave.

    If you are on the minimum wage as set by the EU and fear that your income will fall without a European standard being set, then you will want to stay. If China decides to punish Europe by imposing levies on imported goods whilst dumping the same stuff on us for half the price we can make it for, then you will probably want to leave.

    It is so bloody complicated, that We really needed a few more years to think about it, rather than the 9 months we were allotted.

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    1. P.S. But the uncertainty about what we are going to do is causing a drop in the markets - people are scared to invest. This makes it even more complicated. I bloody hate globalisation.

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    2. Isn't hating globalization a bit like hating the present? Careful, or you'll sound like a cranky old man telling the kids how good it was back in the day.

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  5. I am still not sure Shawn .... I hear one side of the argument and agree, then hear the other side and am totally confused !!!! ..... at least we don't have Donald Trump to worry about !!!!!!! XXXX

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    1. Glad to hear that I am not the only one who is confused! As for Trump, I am NOT worrying about him, choosing instead to ignore him in the hope that he will just disappear if we stop talking about him!

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    2. Under Hillary Clinton the world will see more wars and more dead people. Under Trump you would see a thriving economy and small businesses coming back to life. Nobody can see the wood for the trees though.

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    3. You are giving Trump too much credit, Rachel. He hasn't got a clue about how to encourage the economy. Small businesses are never coming back to life. Amazon and it's like will just keep getting stronger, especially with the favorable tax status large corporations enjoy. I do agree with your comment about Clinton. She is like Bush/Cheney when it comes to foreign policy.

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    4. You are too much of a pessimist. There are always middle of the road "smaller companies". Farmers would fall onto this category, specialist manufacturers, art galleries. They are all small businessea.

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    5. How embarrassing! It's for its. I think I'll blame it on iPhone's autocorrect.

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  6. To stay means we continue to be told what we can and can't do. To quit means we could then make our own decisions about our own country. (I speak as an Englishman even though I live in France)

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